Core group notes

So core group has come and gone…I need to wake up early in the morning(again) and so the detailed post will have to wait til later. I will however, post my notes from this week's men's core meeting. I think it was a great discussion, and I'm thinking that if I do more research/study, I could expand my notes and turn it into a sermon of some sort. But thats a long way off. Right now it's more of a rough draft of a rough draft.

Authority in Family.

First, what is authority?
*The power to enforce laws, exact obedience, command, determine, or judge.
*Power assigned to another; authorization

Who has authority?

Matt. 28:18: Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Romans 13:1-5 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

Parents 'count' as an authority figure…but if you want more 'proof'…

Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2“Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise—3“that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.”(the quote is from Duet 5:16 which states: Honor your father and your mother, as the LORD your God has commanded you, so that you may live long and that it may go well with you in the land the LORD your God is giving you)

Thought: this passage has two commands: obey and honor. I believe that as children we have to obey our parents. Once we reach adulthood, we then must 'Honor' them, which might not mean obeying them all the time, but still esteeming them with respect and high regard. What do you think?

Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.

So parents will eventually give an account for how they raised us. We need to obey them, but the key phrase is …in the Lord. We can not obey them if they ask something of us that would cause us to disobey God

What about unsaved parents?

1 Tim 2:1-6 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone—2for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4who wants all men to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.